Theodore Roosevelt

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  1. NSAje11

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    **PUBLIC NOTICE** - We would like for the general player population to weigh in on their opinion of this player and the demos provided for this unban request. We want to make sure that no legit players remain banned in our servers if we don't have enough solid proof to make a conclusive decision based on the evidence presented.
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    Your In-Game Name:
    Theodore Roosevelt
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    Axol banned me for walling....terrible lol
    Your STEAMID and/or IP:
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    PUG #1 NYC
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    I feel like he thinks everyone hacks that is
     
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  2. dindin

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    Pretty sure he was toggling walls alone with aim assist.
     
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    Can we conclude 100% that he was using aimlock?
     
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  4. aXoL

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    I just checked the ban info section and I can't even find a thread of someone I banned for hacking/walling/toggling that ended up getting unbanned. If I ban someone for cheats I try to make sure it is 100%. I might joke in server sometimes "turn 'em off" or whatever but I have never banned anyone for cheats that ended up getting unbanned. I'll use Ace, VHG, Kombat as examples I think they're fishy sometimes but I'm not 100% certain so I didn't pull the trigger on the ban.

    Also, this is myself, din din, yup all say we think this guy is using some sort of cheat.
     
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  5. dindin

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    So far i would say 90% sure hes hacking due to i only get to watch him play for only few rounds. I would like to get more demos from him. aXoL told me hes gonna get more demos of him, i would say lets wait till that.
     
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    67256_1-1708162033-de_inferno
    67258_1-1708162115-de_dust2
     
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    After watching the inferno one, I can say hes 100% toggling walls. I think he only toggles on 30% of the time just to get a quick kill or get more info.
     
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  8. rdx

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    @dindin I'm looking at the inferno demo. Could you tell me which specific times you thought he was toggling walls?
     
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    dust2
    01:14:00 spamming dd perfectly twice, could be luck
    04:10:00 prob toggled on, and tried to wall the guy to the left with usp, stopped right away after first shot realizing hes behind the wall
    05:00:00 Dont think he really saw that guy crossing long, noticed how late hes reaction was after that guy crossed long, follow by a preaim
    06:52:00 notice how he moves back to dodge the nade without any info about the t at mid is gonna throw that nade.
    07:10:00 prefires
    12:55:00 most likely toggled on this round, notice his crossahair placement and moments, his crosshair moves to the right, tracing the guy who was to the right of the big pit, but didnt really check that spot after he peeks out first time.
    13:00:00 After the t moves out his spot, he traced him again, but this time he didnt peek out, instead hes moving left and right. This round feels like he toggled on, knows where the enemies are, tries to hide it without aim dueling them.
    14:40:00 Walls the guy at lower twice
    14:52:00 Trace the t at big pit perfectly before peeking out, then tries to move to the left and aims at long to hide it, then peeks bit pit to check again and kills the guy


    inferno
    02:54:00 trying to preaim and prefire the guy at lane, shoots at the wall instead
    10:19:00 some weird timing on his wide peek, notice just how wide he peeks just to fake out the awp shot
    11:22:00 prefires and kills the guy then continues to prefire other spots prob just want to fake out the demo
    11:44:00 knows the last t comes from ct spawn hides at back hall b waiting for him, he fakes it by not trying to go for him and get the frag, instead he goes and randomly hides near water, notice no know on his team knows where the last t was
    17:34:00 insane prefires at a weird angle, shoots and walls the guy before he even sees him
    23:32:00 notice how he wide everytime he peeks out, moves back behind the wall as soon as the t was about to get the trade kill, he then stops peeking for a sec without any info knowing the guy crossed banana already, then he wide peeks just wide enough to see the guy who crossed to get the info, then peeks again and kills him
    28:16:00 notice how he checks banana, he runs out saw the guy on top of the box, doenst shoot him because he knows theres one more guy walk pushed banana for some reason, wide peeks him instead and kills him first
    31:43:00 prob knows last ct hiding at apt, but wants to fake out the demo so shoots his teammate instead then follow by a quick reflex and flicks onto the last ct
    34:17:00 some wallbangs
    34:36:00 he scopes out all the way to check that spot, he prob knows where last ct is, he sees him, but this time he prob think its kinda too obvs just to kill him like that, so he prob wants to fake out the demo by not shoot at him at all after seeing him for almost 2 seconds, some super odd slow reaction coming from a player who had super insane reflex


    Overall, he is walling, but he really tries to hide it by toggling on and off constantly and make all the weird movements that he thinks that might help. He prob only toggles on maybe 20-30% of the time and turns off most of the time.
     
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    Thanks @dindin for this detailed analysis, it is greatly appreciated.
     
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    We are making this unban request public at this time to see if any regulars in the server would like to weigh in their opinions of the demos of this particular player accused of cheating.
     
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  12. NSAje11

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    i counted the world "probably" 7 times in your post...probably doesn't hold any merit
     
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  13. NSAje11

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    this guys whole post is all allegations that hold no value. i used to be an admin for whx and i could easily tell when someone was cheating or not because of admin esp..."most likely" "probably"...like really? its called getting lucky, using sound, and players in game calling where people are..
     
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  14. GetterBangBang

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    totally disagree with dindin :hungover

    so far, just watched 67256_1-1708162033-de_inferno

    just from this demo, he is super clean, clean as fuck.

    btw i have to say, this is the worst demo i ever try to judge a hacker/ not hacker, his perspective is so ugly to watch.
    # No skill #No nothing

    If the only suspious point in his perspective is always shaking (little), maybe aimlock? not very know about that kind of hacking

    And I double checked the specific time what dindin said before -----
    I didn't find anything, sometimes we makes some weird kill, and strange aim.
    I will consider I'm a hacker if I check some part of my demos.
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    Overall, I think he is clean for wallhack just from 67256_1-1708162033-de_inferno

    I will review Dust2 after I back from school, as well, could someone give me the demo # which he got banned
     
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  15. GetterBangBang

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    same opinion with inferno. after watching 67258_1-1708162115-de_dust2
    totally #CLEAN for me.
    still feel terrible to see his perspective, always pre-locking at ground , lol:bag
     
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  16. dindin

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    you watched the wrong one
    67620_1-1708301843-de_dust2
     
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  17. GetterBangBang

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    I review the demo twice.
    From this demo, and what you said.

    "05:00:00 Dont think he really saw that guy crossing long, noticed how late hes reaction was after that guy crossed long, follow by a preaim"
    # CLEAN, he saw him at 05:03 when the T duck-jump before he cross the CT ramp

    "13:00:00 After the t moves out his spot, he traced him again, but this time he didnt peek out, instead hes moving left and right. This round feels like he toggled on, knows where the enemies are, tries to hide it without aim dueling them"
    # CLEAN, common sense, his teammate just got killed in long A, he knows there is at least 1 enemy coming long

    "14:40:00 Walls the guy at lower twice"

    perfectly , and twice.
    # SUPER DIRTY ,
    And this spam is no clue, i means nobody gonna do this kind of shoot anyway
    If he pre-fire the mid-door and that T choose to peek at that moment and got killed, then that may be make sense


    no offense to dindin, that's the only 1 dirty portion after I review all 3 ofthe demos, and compare to your opinion, all the others i think are fine.
    (but just this 1 point, it's a super strong proof, i don't have any reason (like lucky/random shoot) to persuade myself for that kill is #CLEAN)



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    btw. I change my opinion "clean" to "neutral”
     
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  18. NSAje11

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    It was simply a random spam. Watch it again...a teamate died tunnel and i guessed that he went lower b to mid.
     
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    that is not a nice excuse,
    1st: nobody can aim that accurately(twice !!!)
    2nd: if you try to random spam him, why you clip 1 bullet instead of just sweep the spot

    The feeling it gives me is that:
    1st time maybe lucky, you aimmed at him, but you didn't shoot.
    the 2nd your crosshair turn back to mid again and shoot him is because --- you see him through wallhack but you don't know whether he is out Mid-door or still behind the Mid-door
     
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    clean on the dust2. somebody die tunel b and probabily he talk on the microphone was 2 people or more dude is logic to spam doors, was logic if he was prefire that guy in tunnel to.(you can hear the first spam)
     
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